winter
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Post by winter on Aug 7, 2014 20:11:35 GMT
I turn 17 this November. Both my sister and her fiance are 22.
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Post by winter on Aug 7, 2014 22:10:31 GMT
(Sorry if the pics are big) This was my art room. This is where I use to do all of my art. It still looks like this. I've asked my mom so many times to clean it and she won't. I haven't been able to do any art since 2012. This is why my depression is getting worse. She also called me a hoarder even though most of the stuff I own is in my room and slightly in the garage and basement. And even less of the stuff in the house is my sister's. She keeps buying more. We have no room. Or money for things that we need. I've actually started to break down and cry because of it. {Spoiler}
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 22:18:54 GMT
Winter…
*internet hugs*
…I hope you find a way through this.
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Post by separatesky on Aug 7, 2014 22:32:24 GMT
Winter, you seem so talented and so young. I'm not nearly either of those, but I have to say that money is not always the answer to parent/kid problems. If I were you, and not happy with my space as shown above, I would do something about it. Don't expect your mom to do it for you. I bet it would take no money but some time and energy to clean up your space and all your precious art materials and when done, you might be inspired to take on an even bigger project, or at the very least, be able to enjoy doing your art work in surroundings that express your personality and individuality. I know none of this is going to solve the more pressing problems, but I do believe that happiness begins at home - (but sometimes you have to make it happen). Play CP music, sort out what you don't need or what you DO need, and be proud that you are taking a positive step....you know what they say about long journeys, right? Blessings!
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winter
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Post by winter on Aug 7, 2014 23:15:19 GMT
I've tried cleaning it up but she just yells at me. And none of those things in there are mine except the walking stick, the white basket on the desk, and my clay things, which are all in my room.
She also is really reluctant to buy basic needs things like shampoo and deodorant, but she bought an 800$ guitar and me a 100$ uke once and never touched it. She won't let me sell it, and the guitar has been sitting under her bed for a year.I am worried about money because multiple times my mom has told us that she's afraid that she might loose the house. And there's no where to put any of this stuff.
The garage is full, the basement is full, dining room, porch, everything. I never feel safe or happy at home anymore no matter what I do. And I never was young. I'm an old soul.
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Post by separatesky on Aug 7, 2014 23:37:26 GMT
Ok, you need more than this forum to vent. Please, PLEASE, seek any outside help you can find - thru a church, school, youth group, teacher, counselor, family services, etc. Each community has at least a few places to turn to which are free. Obviously there is much more at risk here than can be solved online. I'm glad you are able to let out your feelings, but you need to do that to someone who is within arm's length, older, and professional in some capacity, who can help or offer suggestions or maybe even intervene. We'll all keep you in our hearts/minds, but you need to take a bigger step. I hope you have the strength to do that.
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winter
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Post by winter on Aug 7, 2014 23:46:17 GMT
I'm an Atheist so I doubt church would do anything for me. I have a counselor but I only get to see her once every two weeks. I have tried other counseling with my mom but the second she hears something that she doesn't like she pulls me out of it. That's why it took so long for her to divorce my dad was because she went through four lawyers before she found one that gave her the response that she wanted to hear. The best I can do is deal with her bs for two more years and then I'm getting the hell out of there and I never ever want to see her again. Not after all of the s**t she put us through.
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Post by prissieb on Aug 8, 2014 21:31:24 GMT
Florian, how is your relationship with your father?
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winter
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Post by winter on Aug 8, 2014 21:44:02 GMT
We get along just fine. No problems. I would move in with him but he doesn't have the money for it and it would be pointless for me to move in with him only to move out the next year.
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Post by prissieb on Aug 9, 2014 12:33:42 GMT
Isn't there a way in between? Maybe a few days with your dad. Gives you some are and space. Unfortunally, at this point I know exactly how you feel. My mum don't give a s**t about me and my brother. She is very selfish and actually used us the get things she wants. I lived for 16 years in a same kind of household like you. A lot of stuff. You couldn't see the floor. Unfortunally it wasn't all just stuff at our place, but also dirt. :S
My parents are divoced in 2001, when I was 16. Both of them are re-married. I get along with my dad, but he isn't a real father for me. I don't fit in the picture of the new family. He tries, but he always forgets. I don't speak to my mum anymore. Like I said, she is very selfish and thinks everything she does is the right way. It all exploded a few months before my wedding. She was only thinking about herself and didn't ask on one single moment how I was doing with the wedding or how I was going to do it. One day she said some ugly things and that was it for me. All those frustations, I couldn't handle it anymore. I said it before: since I am together with my husband (for 13 years now) we couldn't be really happy, because there were always things going on. Main reason of that are my parents.
I've been kicked out of my home when I was 16. I lived for two years by my grandmother. Never had a good relationship with my mum, so that couldn't be fixed, but the relationship with my dad got stronger. Although he isn't the dad that I would to have, I don't want to loose him.
So, with all this on my back, I am trying to advice you: try to create some distance between you and your mum. Maybe a few days with your dad every now and then will help. If that isn't possible, try to create some emotional space. That is the hardest thing to learn, but it can improve the relationship with your mother. I may have broken with my mother, because I don't see an other way, but I sure damn miss a mum. The mum I never had and never will have....
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Post by Captain Crieff on Aug 9, 2014 14:53:29 GMT
That's so awful :/ hugs for both of you!
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Post by kittybitty on Aug 9, 2014 15:07:40 GMT
I understand what you're going through, Winter. My mom died when I was 17, I was left with my dad. He had mental illness and was also a hoarder. We had a very difficult time for awhile, we got thrown out of our apartment, then had to move into a house with people I didn't even know. We had no phone because he refused to pay his bill, if I wanted to talk to someone I had to walk down to the grocery store payphone and call them, then walk back. My dad would threaten to kill himself and then want me to talk him out of it, which I did. Finally, I could not take it anymore and moved out with my sister, even that was difficult. She was never that supportive and we would argue over the living situation. I cut off all ties with my dad, and then moved in with a roommate.
I understand the feeling of being stuck, and you seem to be stuck. The mess in a hoarder's house can cause such emotional pain, it's so much more than just a messy house.
The only thing I can advise to you would be try to hang out with your dad more, and in the meantime try to find a job. You would have money and feel productive and then maybe move out with someone you know or someone from an ad. Not all awful situations last, even though we may think that they do.
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Post by winter on Aug 9, 2014 17:38:32 GMT
At this point there's no trying to fight it. All of us (sister,fiance,dad,me) have tried everything. And no matter what he just puts the blame on us. If I can just move out after I graduate and not really see her again it would be amazing. We just have to watch what we say and just do what she tells us to do and it should work out for a few years. (I'm just hoping I can get a job and she just moves in with her boyfriend so I could live alone for a while)
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Post by prissieb on Aug 9, 2014 20:26:20 GMT
I wish you all the best with this. Just be carefull with making choices you could regret in the future.
And you saw it, there are some people who experienced the same kind of thing. So if you need someone to listen or some advice, just ask. We are here!
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Post by LdySpace on Aug 9, 2014 20:47:00 GMT
How wonderful that people feel like they can share pieces of their lives and have understanding from someone so far away. We have all had our obstacles to face, me included, and it seems that are some people who can really offer you advice, Florian, and understand where you are coming from.
What Prissie and Kitty have to say makes a lot of sense - see if you can get closer with your dad in some way. And finding a job is an excellent idea. It will give you a sense of pride, boost your self image, give you something to focus on, give you something out of the house and give you some money in your pockets. Sometimes we have to take the bull by the horns, and put ourselves first and carve out a future plan. It's hard sometimes to go through the times that are irritating, upsetting or just don't make any sense, but we have to go through them to find out way out of the other side, and you will with some work and some self worth. I'm sorry that you are lacking the support that should automatically come with a family. All of you. And yes, be very careful making decisions on an emotional high or low. Things will look up!
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